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Damien Scott

Dr. Mike,
In my days of training in a Catholic monastery in Arkansas, our work crew in the garden was directed by an ancient Baptist deacon. One day, for no reason I can recall after thirty years, he began talking about Jesus being present in the Lord's supper. It was a moving testimony from a simple and theologically unsophisticated man whose faith was a light then and now to me, decades after he went to join the banquet that never ends in the presence that no one can doubt. Thanks for bringing that memory back.
Damien

Monk-in-Training

Greetings Dr. Mike.

I think you just explained it!

"I do believe in the Real Presence, although I cannot explain the theology of it..."

Neither can I! :)

We do not presume to come to this Thy Table, O merciful Lord, trusting in our own righteousness, but in Thy manifold and great mercies. We are not worthy so much as to gather up the crumbs under Thy Table. But Thou art the same Lord whose property is always to have mercy. Grant us therefore, gracious Lord, so to eat the flesh of Thy dear Son Jesus Christ, and to drink His blood, that we may evermore dwell in Him, and He in us. Amen.

Dr. Mike Kear

Greetings MiT,

I've read your post several times and I want to respond, but I'm not sure exactly how to say what I feel. I know that as a Baptist I'm not supposed to believe in the Real Presence (at least not in the same way you're talking about). And I certainly agree with Tripp's evaluation (in fact I was able to see a new facet that I hadn't before, thanks, Tripp!). But there's something more at the table of the Lord than my seminary theology allows for me. I do believe in the Real Presence, although I cannot explain the theology of it at this point. I once attended an Episcopal Church (even though I am an ordained Baptist minister) for nearly a year simply because I felt that I shared with the members of that parish a special reverence and a knowledge of the presence in the Eucharist. (They were very welcoming of this strange creature at the table of the lord with them, too!).

I don't know the when or the how of the transubstantiation or consubstantiation, whichever it is, I just know that Christ is there. Really. And in his graciousness, I am allowed to commune with him at an extremely deep level.

I finding day after day that I really suck at being a Baptist.

Peace,

Mike

Tripp

I think it is the sacred and spiritual nature of remebering Christ that is important. As a Baptist, I am willing to say that there is a real presense of the Lord because the Lord allows it...through our memorial. Anamnesis is more than recollection. It is a re-entering a specific time and place. It corporeal. It is real. It is true. We are at the table with the disciples ready to betray Him and to follow as we are able.

The people are then made "real" in the presense and through the reception of the gifts of God.

Circular, I am sure, but fun to play in.

Damien Scott

I suspect the moment that the Presence of Christ becomes real is not when we invoke the Spirit or when we say the Dominical words of consecration, but when we "do as he did" in washing the feet of the brothers and sisters.

If only we were as concerned about "doing this in memory of" him.

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